Jared and Swatello sort of failed to work out. And I'm calling shenanigans on the writers for pulling the whole 'nutty chicks and their expectations of commitment and 'I'm not telling you if you don't know' and mixed signals' with Ellen. Uncool writers. I can fanwank it away as her having internalized amatonormativity, but it's still clear writer shenanigans. Swatello is just so amazing, they didn't have to do this. Ugh.
And since we got Swatello this week we didn't get Anita, though we did see some other lady lawyers who work at I,D,F&B.
We also got some more creepy Dan. Who's extra helpful when it comes to Jared. Even though Jared doesn't want the help. Just saying... maybe Peter shouldn't be the one locking his door at night.
The former lawyer cello lady sub letter was amazing. I want lots more of her.
The case this week was nice. I mean, it was just kinda there, but it did mean that we got talk about Jared and Peter in high school. Which I have lots of feelings about. And they're all angsty and tragic. Because they went to different high schools. (yay continuity!) And Jared got picked on by band kids. And forwent his prom in order to stick corn in his principal's gas tank. (I'm gonna assume that he didn't actually go to prom, even though he never explicitly said) And he probably had to listen to Peter talk about wanting to go to prom. With a girl. And then actually go to prom. With a girl.
(And maybe Jared went over to Peter's house before Peter left for prom, because Peter was freaking out and couldn't choose a tie and wasn't sure if he should match his cummerbund to the corsage or not. Maybe Jared had to lie about how he was totally excited for his own prom. Maybe he jokingly told Peter that he looked handsome, but really really meant it.
Even though I'm sure the writers so don't mean to make as tragic of a back story as I'm making it. Still...
Jared had to watch his chubby best (only? I mean, we've met Peter's friend, and mutual friends of their like the bounty hunter last season... but I don't think we know of anyone else Jared was close to? like a Jared specific friend? do we?) childhood friend get tall and thin and join the football team and go to prom with girls. While he got picked on by the band geeks (and also Peter's friend Danny) and had a Quantum Leap backpack and stuffed corn in his principal's gas tank instead of going to prom.
Nerdy, short, teenage Jared who's at a stuck up rich kids high school without his best friend. Who probably asked Leonard if he could go to school with Peter. Who would have been an outcast there too, but at least he would have been with Peter. Peter who promised that they'd stay friends. And still came over lots. But who was one person when he was with his other friends and another person when it was just him and Jared. Because Peter thinks that there's a certain way that things go. And it's football and prom and girls. And Jared is just always who Jared is.
So tragic.)
*coughs* Anyway.
They pretended that they were a couple! !!! A coupe with a kid! !!! A kid with a terrible, unthought out name. They need to learn to plan ahead. Jared's hand on Peter's shoulder. A hand that Peter only wanted off when the girl called them on being lawyers instead. And the girl thought that they made a cute couple. And Peter agreed and Jared thought that they could be co parents, even if Peter was too over protective. Domestic kid fic here we come.
Jared again being jealous of Peter and a girl. Even if he did fix it so that they could dance together. And Jared solo dancing.
Peter's double misfortunes on the dace floor. Jared loving finally finding about the high school one and also being like 'dude, really.' when half of it happens again in court. Jared's little 'ew' when Peter said he was wearing white pants the first time. (which, okay, kinda totally blows a hole in my theory of Jared helping Peter dress for the prom, but it still could have been just a reminder type thing)
Jared not connecting Woodrow and Bernstein with Deep Throat. They've kind of upped the 'Jared doesn't know stuff' stuff lately... like before we had it where Peter was, like, kinda bad at school and stuff, so I don't know if they're just trying to even it out of what.
You know, I was pulling a face :/ when they had Swatello be the more serious one. It would have been perfect if they'd have done it the other way around. That was sloppy and lazy and so predictable - bad form writers, 0/10, would not recommend. I'm thinking that maybe they're going to go for Jared's increasingly desperate ways to try and get Swatello back? I really do want them to work out, but not at the expense of Swatello being well, Swatello
Creepy Dan does seem to have a bit of a thing for Jared doesn't he? Can't really blame him though...
High school continuity!! I'm so very happy that they seem to have a show bible now - or they've read our notes. Maybe a bit of both. Also, they have to have a tragic HS experience, Leonard SPLIT THEM UP.
Pretending to be a couple \o/ - they so would be make awesome co dads, embarrassing and over protective and supportive and very much love the fact that even though the kids know the story of the summer Dad and Pop were ten and how they've been together longer than they haven't, they still think they can pull one over on them and it becomes a challenge to see who can.
I really rather loved Peter handing over closing argument to Jared with the word 'wood' and having his briefcase on his lap. Jared is such an understanding BF.
The Woodrow/Bernstein/Deep Throat thing was a bit odd, I mean I though everyone knew about that.
In conclusion - our show continues to love us very much.
Yeah, I'm wondering if they're going to continue with the Swatello thing like you said or if they're just going to drop it, because Peter did seem really into reminding Jared that Ellen dumped him and Jared seemed to be trying to accept that, so I dunno... maybe they found out that writing a relationship was hard so they decided to bail by setting it on fire. Ugh.
I love that the show has really boned up on their continuity. I do hope that we've helped.
Leonard so totally split them up! I'm sure he noticed how weirdly close Jared and Peter were during grade school (and Peter not exactly being the kind of friend Leonard probably wanted Jared to have) and thought sending Jared to a different high school would work. And there was probably a big fight about it. And someone probably cried. It's was probably all very Romeo and Juliet-esque.
even though the kids know the story of the summer Dad and Pop were ten and how they've been together longer than they haven't, they still think they can pull one over on them and it becomes a challenge to see who can.
And they roll their eyes every time Peter and Jared start to tell the story. And then roll their eyes more at how ridic their fathers are. Like it was cute when their kids were, you know, kids, but it's kind of embarrassing when they're teenagers.
'wood' was so perfect. And 'should I get some clam chowder' was an adorable response to it.
OH GOD. I loved this episode. But yes I was so disappointed about Ellen. I mean even if you buy the idea that she would have in any way filled out the form that way, whether she was having feelings or not, it was wrong on every level, but even if you buy that, like she wouldn't understand that Jared was writing down what he thought she wanted to hear, like OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE WOULD BE DOING THAT. UGH. And like she's not sleeping with at least three other people anyway.
I liked Jared blaming Peter, though.
And I like that even in this heterosexual landscape they now inhabit they know they would be great dads together, and at least Jared didn't want to call the baby Skeletor, and oh my god they would be amazing, I love that they pretended to be gay parents.
Also the reporter child mentioned something about elephants and circuses which was nice.
Also Peter is really beautiful and I loved him fathering the teenage boy a bit over dinner and I loved Jared covering for him when he was hard in court and I love that he still loves Marisa Tomei and Jared is tired of it.
I love that Jared's the one who is worried about money and about actually trying to make the business work.
Stanton's casual 'I don't remember taking the bar' made me laugh out loud it's SO PERFECT, he so easily might never have bothered. And the cello lady is one of my favourite actresses and she was amazing and I know they won't but it would be so lovely if she stayed and was forever and sometimes had to do law and they had to always talk her down from destroying the opposition and going overboard and Peter could have a slight affair with her because Peter has an older woman thing.
Jared would know Deep Throat from the x-files. Jared not having watched the x-files and had an unholy crush on Gillian Anderson is beyond my understanding.
I love EVERY TIME they mention Jared not being popular at school and how he had to kind of reinvent himself to fit in. lksdfhowiejfsdf. YES TO EVERYTHING YOU SAID. I love them so much.
>>maybe Peter shouldn't be the one locking his door at night
YES THIS. Maybe probably Jared hears someone trying to get in a couple of nights in a row and he tries to be brave but is obviously scared and doesn't think he's imagining it, and then the next night he wakes up and Dan is just sitting on his bed watching him sleep, and then the next night he just goes and sleeps with Peter because he's NATURALLY TERRIFIED, and then they fall in love forever.
Jared's solo dancing! YES. Yes. And them matchmaking the whole gallery was lovely, and the judge just being used to them now and agreeing basically to have dancing just because they wanted it.
It was so not Ellen. In any way. Like what even possessed the writers to think that that's what she would have done. (I mean, I know what possessed them, but bad on them for doing it) Zero sense.
Jared blaming Peter and Ellen kind of looking like 'oh, Peter, yeah'... like yeah Ellen, this was the future that you thought you wanted to maybe live with???
We're checking off so many fanfic tropes this season. Pretending to be gay parents is like one step above just pretending to be a gay couple.
Peter looks so lovely when he's around women who have children. Like his little sweater outfit when he went to dinner was like classic dad clothes.
Jared's face when Peter offered probono services was amazing. I feel like the money problems are weighing on him most of all. (like they're probably not weighing on Stanton much if he's thinking of spending thousands on Jackson 5 bobble heads)
Oh, Stanton never actually taking the bar would be incredible, yes.
it would be so lovely if she stayed and was forever and sometimes had to do law and they had to always talk her down from destroying the opposition and going overboard and Peter could have a slight affair with her because Peter has an older woman thing.
I agree that they won't do this and we'll probably never see her again but, oh man, yes, this would be the most perfect thing ever. And I'd also want her to become friends with Colleen.
I can not fathom a universe where Jared hasn't watched the x-files and has no knowledge of deep throat. This is just as inexplicable as the whole Swatello thing.
The judge was great. He just let them go for it. Who cares. Let's do this. All judges should be like that. (unless, of course, they want to be total hard nuts and throw Peter and Jared into jail, that's be okay too)
And it's like the middle of the night, and Jared totally tried to sleep in his own room even after Dan was watching him sleep, probably with the excuse of getting some info which he thought he should give to Jared at 3 am, which Jared thinks could have totally been a reason but probably actually wasn't because Dan also stroked his hair before he left, but he hears some noises again and just bolts to Peter's room and tries to act all casual as he crawls under the covers and wraps his arms around Peter. And Peter's all sleepy and 'wha-?' and Jared mumbles into his hair 'Danwaswatchingmesleep' and Peter mumbles back something about how he's not going to help Jared count sheep but he also doesn't kick Jared out of bed and by the time morning happens he's curled around Jared, which Jared really prefers.
It took me 6 minutes to realized the kid is Ned, you know, from Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide, he like freaking Clark Kent with those glasses!
Ohh, pretending to be married with kids!! Why was it so short lived? They should do that for an entire episode. And Peter admiting they would be a good couple and great dads <3<3<3<3<3<3<3
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Date: 2014-09-11 08:51 am (UTC)And since we got Swatello this week we didn't get Anita, though we did see some other lady lawyers who work at I,D,F&B.
We also got some more creepy Dan. Who's extra helpful when it comes to Jared. Even though Jared doesn't want the help. Just saying... maybe Peter shouldn't be the one locking his door at night.
The former lawyer cello lady sub letter was amazing. I want lots more of her.
The case this week was nice. I mean, it was just kinda there, but it did mean that we got talk about Jared and Peter in high school. Which I have lots of feelings about. And they're all angsty and tragic. Because they went to different high schools. (yay continuity!) And Jared got picked on by band kids. And forwent his prom in order to stick corn in his principal's gas tank. (I'm gonna assume that he didn't actually go to prom, even though he never explicitly said) And he probably had to listen to Peter talk about wanting to go to prom. With a girl. And then actually go to prom. With a girl.
(And maybe Jared went over to Peter's house before Peter left for prom, because Peter was freaking out and couldn't choose a tie and wasn't sure if he should match his cummerbund to the corsage or not. Maybe Jared had to lie about how he was totally excited for his own prom. Maybe he jokingly told Peter that he looked handsome, but really really meant it.
Even though I'm sure the writers so don't mean to make as tragic of a back story as I'm making it. Still...
Jared had to watch his chubby best (only? I mean, we've met Peter's friend, and mutual friends of their like the bounty hunter last season... but I don't think we know of anyone else Jared was close to? like a Jared specific friend? do we?) childhood friend get tall and thin and join the football team and go to prom with girls. While he got picked on by the band geeks (and also Peter's friend Danny) and had a Quantum Leap backpack and stuffed corn in his principal's gas tank instead of going to prom.
Nerdy, short, teenage Jared who's at a stuck up rich kids high school without his best friend. Who probably asked Leonard if he could go to school with Peter. Who would have been an outcast there too, but at least he would have been with Peter. Peter who promised that they'd stay friends. And still came over lots. But who was one person when he was with his other friends and another person when it was just him and Jared. Because Peter thinks that there's a certain way that things go. And it's football and prom and girls. And Jared is just always who Jared is.
So tragic.)
*coughs* Anyway.
They pretended that they were a couple! !!! A coupe with a kid! !!! A kid with a terrible, unthought out name. They need to learn to plan ahead. Jared's hand on Peter's shoulder. A hand that Peter only wanted off when the girl called them on being lawyers instead. And the girl thought that they made a cute couple. And Peter agreed and Jared thought that they could be co parents, even if Peter was too over protective. Domestic kid fic here we come.
Jared again being jealous of Peter and a girl. Even if he did fix it so that they could dance together. And Jared solo dancing.
Peter's double misfortunes on the dace floor. Jared loving finally finding about the high school one and also being like 'dude, really.' when half of it happens again in court. Jared's little 'ew' when Peter said he was wearing white pants the first time. (which, okay, kinda totally blows a hole in my theory of Jared helping Peter dress for the prom, but it still could have been just a reminder type thing)
Jared not connecting Woodrow and Bernstein with Deep Throat. They've kind of upped the 'Jared doesn't know stuff' stuff lately... like before we had it where Peter was, like, kinda bad at school and stuff, so I don't know if they're just trying to even it out of what.
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Date: 2014-09-11 09:50 am (UTC)Creepy Dan does seem to have a bit of a thing for Jared doesn't he? Can't really blame him though...
High school continuity!! I'm so very happy that they seem to have a show bible now - or they've read our notes. Maybe a bit of both. Also, they have to have a tragic HS experience, Leonard SPLIT THEM UP.
Pretending to be a couple \o/ - they so would be make awesome co dads, embarrassing and over protective and supportive and very much love the fact that even though the kids know the story of the summer Dad and Pop were ten and how they've been together longer than they haven't, they still think they can pull one over on them and it becomes a challenge to see who can.
I really rather loved Peter handing over closing argument to Jared with the word 'wood' and having his briefcase on his lap. Jared is such an understanding BF.
The Woodrow/Bernstein/Deep Throat thing was a bit odd, I mean I though everyone knew about that.
In conclusion - our show continues to love us very much.
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Date: 2014-09-11 05:50 pm (UTC)I love that the show has really boned up on their continuity. I do hope that we've helped.
Leonard so totally split them up! I'm sure he noticed how weirdly close Jared and Peter were during grade school (and Peter not exactly being the kind of friend Leonard probably wanted Jared to have) and thought sending Jared to a different high school would work. And there was probably a big fight about it. And someone probably cried. It's was probably all very Romeo and Juliet-esque.
even though the kids know the story of the summer Dad and Pop were ten and how they've been together longer than they haven't, they still think they can pull one over on them and it becomes a challenge to see who can.
And they roll their eyes every time Peter and Jared start to tell the story. And then roll their eyes more at how ridic their fathers are. Like it was cute when their kids were, you know, kids, but it's kind of embarrassing when they're teenagers.
'wood' was so perfect. And 'should I get some clam chowder' was an adorable response to it.
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Date: 2014-09-11 10:03 am (UTC)I liked Jared blaming Peter, though.
And I like that even in this heterosexual landscape they now inhabit they know they would be great dads together, and at least Jared didn't want to call the baby Skeletor, and oh my god they would be amazing, I love that they pretended to be gay parents.
Also the reporter child mentioned something about elephants and circuses which was nice.
Also Peter is really beautiful and I loved him fathering the teenage boy a bit over dinner and I loved Jared covering for him when he was hard in court and I love that he still loves Marisa Tomei and Jared is tired of it.
I love that Jared's the one who is worried about money and about actually trying to make the business work.
Stanton's casual 'I don't remember taking the bar' made me laugh out loud it's SO PERFECT, he so easily might never have bothered. And the cello lady is one of my favourite actresses and she was amazing and I know they won't but it would be so lovely if she stayed and was forever and sometimes had to do law and they had to always talk her down from destroying the opposition and going overboard and Peter could have a slight affair with her because Peter has an older woman thing.
Jared would know Deep Throat from the x-files. Jared not having watched the x-files and had an unholy crush on Gillian Anderson is beyond my understanding.
I love EVERY TIME they mention Jared not being popular at school and how he had to kind of reinvent himself to fit in. lksdfhowiejfsdf. YES TO EVERYTHING YOU SAID. I love them so much.
>>maybe Peter shouldn't be the one locking his door at night
YES THIS. Maybe probably Jared hears someone trying to get in a couple of nights in a row and he tries to be brave but is obviously scared and doesn't think he's imagining it, and then the next night he wakes up and Dan is just sitting on his bed watching him sleep, and then the next night he just goes and sleeps with Peter because he's NATURALLY TERRIFIED, and then they fall in love forever.
Jared's solo dancing! YES. Yes. And them matchmaking the whole gallery was lovely, and the judge just being used to them now and agreeing basically to have dancing just because they wanted it.
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Date: 2014-09-11 06:10 pm (UTC)Jared blaming Peter and Ellen kind of looking like 'oh, Peter, yeah'... like yeah Ellen, this was the future that you thought you wanted to maybe live with???
We're checking off so many fanfic tropes this season. Pretending to be gay parents is like one step above just pretending to be a gay couple.
Peter looks so lovely when he's around women who have children. Like his little sweater outfit when he went to dinner was like classic dad clothes.
Jared's face when Peter offered probono services was amazing. I feel like the money problems are weighing on him most of all. (like they're probably not weighing on Stanton much if he's thinking of spending thousands on Jackson 5 bobble heads)
Oh, Stanton never actually taking the bar would be incredible, yes.
it would be so lovely if she stayed and was forever and sometimes had to do law and they had to always talk her down from destroying the opposition and going overboard and Peter could have a slight affair with her because Peter has an older woman thing.
I agree that they won't do this and we'll probably never see her again but, oh man, yes, this would be the most perfect thing ever. And I'd also want her to become friends with Colleen.
I can not fathom a universe where Jared hasn't watched the x-files and has no knowledge of deep throat. This is just as inexplicable as the whole Swatello thing.
The judge was great. He just let them go for it. Who cares. Let's do this. All judges should be like that. (unless, of course, they want to be total hard nuts and throw Peter and Jared into jail, that's be okay too)
And it's like the middle of the night, and Jared totally tried to sleep in his own room even after Dan was watching him sleep, probably with the excuse of getting some info which he thought he should give to Jared at 3 am, which Jared thinks could have totally been a reason but probably actually wasn't because Dan also stroked his hair before he left, but he hears some noises again and just bolts to Peter's room and tries to act all casual as he crawls under the covers and wraps his arms around Peter. And Peter's all sleepy and 'wha-?' and Jared mumbles into his hair 'Danwaswatchingmesleep' and Peter mumbles back something about how he's not going to help Jared count sheep but he also doesn't kick Jared out of bed and by the time morning happens he's curled around Jared, which Jared really prefers.
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Date: 2014-09-12 08:36 pm (UTC)It took me 6 minutes to realized the kid is Ned, you know, from Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide, he like freaking Clark Kent with those glasses!
Ohh, pretending to be married with kids!! Why was it so short lived? They should do that for an entire episode. And Peter admiting they would be a good couple and great dads <3<3<3<3<3<3<3
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