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IT'S WEDNESDAY!

Franklin and Bash miss us and we miss them.


Let's relive some of the glory days of Franklin & Bash: Season One: The Drama, the Bromance, the Romance?

This post is open to discussions of any kind, any episode, any other shows (SUITS PERHAPS?). How are you guys dealing with the aftermath of the season finale? What are your thoughts of the whole Peter/Janie issue? Yay or nay?

Talk to us!

Remember to drop by [livejournal.com profile] jekesta's poll for the rewatch parties she's planning. HERE if you missed it.

And don't give up on the KINK MEME

REMEMBER: THIS POST IS ACTIVE UNTIL NEXT WEDNESDAY'S POST! HAVE FUN!!

Date: 2011-09-29 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogoblue.livejournal.com
The thing to me was suits. Damien's in particular. I had to rewind and watch the scene with him and Hanna with the kid kayaker when Damien had no jacket, no tie and his shirt sleeves were rolled up and I'm what the hell is going on. Went back and appreciated ... several times. Love forearms. Will step down now.

Date: 2011-09-29 05:48 am (UTC)
jekesta: Houlihan with her hat and mask. (Angus omg)
From: [personal profile] jekesta
I think they're seriously really really particularly good at forearms in this show. I know forearms are always nice, and shirt sleeves are RIDICULOUSLY GOOD, but I think they're better than usual at them. I do love Damien, and I know what you mean, because he's being really defensive in that scene and is just a great great shape, and his shirt is brilliant. But for me it's Peter. In the last episode when thingy from Fake Battlestar is in her underwear it is like something in Mark-Paul Gosselaar just goes 'OH, I AM ALWAYS THE MOST PORNOGRAPHIC THING IN A ROOM, SORRY, I CAN'T HELP IT' and all of him just becomes made of beautiful sex. But mostly his forearms, and his shoulder. Shoulders are so nice under shirts.

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Date: 2011-09-29 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] consolecadet.livejournal.com
merpsuits <3

i don't even like men, but i really like suits. . .i'd probably have watched this show for Franklin's waistcoat alone XD

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Date: 2011-09-29 06:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jekesta
OH PETER SMILING. I love when they smile at whatever the other one says.

Date: 2011-09-29 06:20 am (UTC)
jekesta: Houlihan with her hat and mask. (fb)
From: [personal profile] jekesta
Hello! I am dealing *badly* with the season having ended, because all other television has paled in comparison with Franklin and Bash and I'm not even joking and I don't know why that happened to me.

I'm dealing with it by watching everything else Breckin and MPG have ever been in, which is great because you get to look at Breckin Meyer some more, but also slightly soul destroying because he was nearly entirely just WASTED until they made him Jared. I'm so grateful they made him Jared.

My thoughts on the Peter/Janie thing is basically that I like it if it stays dead. I know it's a bit cliché slash fan of me, but I love that Jared won, I love that he has custody of Peter, I never want that to change. I really really like the female characters in Franklin and Bash but I still don't believe they have the ability to write either of them into a relationship without making it rubbish and awful. I love how often the actors say they hope that doesn't happen too.

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Date: 2011-09-29 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] odannygirl7.livejournal.com
I really really like the female characters in Franklin and Bash but I still don't believe they have the ability to write either of them into a relationship without making it rubbish and awful.

This. Somehow them managed to make the female characters pretty much not props for the men... just keep going in that direction writers!

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Date: 2011-09-29 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vic-amy-z.livejournal.com
I agree with... all of this! I appear to be dealing in a very similar way, although I still have much MPG to catch up on because my love for Breckin has eclipsed everything else!

Peter and Janie works for me in the way that the back story gives them something to spark off, but I don't want to see it back on screen. Both Peter and Jared seem to work better having casual relationships with women and then always coming back to each other. Also, I kinda like the fiance - I think the fact that Jared's jealous of Peter and Nathan even more than he is of Peter and Janie is hilarious. I want more Van Der Beek in season 2!

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Date: 2011-09-29 06:39 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] matchsticks-p.livejournal.com
I love that Peter actually gets along really well with Janie's fiance! It's often such a cliche, when we're meant to root for the ex, to bring in the new guy and have him be an asshole so the audience hates him. I LOVE that van der Beek's character is a genuinely nice guy and he and Peter actually become friends. I thought they were great together, and the fiance was entertaining even by himself without Peter. That's one of the main reasons I'm not into Peter/Janie (aside from the obvious Peter should be with Jared reason)--there's no way to do it without either hurting her fiance and I like him much too much for that, or turning him into a bad guy which would be a shitty rom-com move that's been done a million times. I'd love to see more of Peter and van der Beek hanging out! And Jared along for the ride, half-exasperated but half-charmed. Idk if VDB is someone they can get back as a recurring guest star, but I think it would be fun.

Date: 2011-09-29 09:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] odannygirl7.livejournal.com
I'd love for VDB to come back. They've written these lovely minor characters, no reason not to keep using them.

Date: 2011-09-29 11:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jekesta
Yes! They did so nicely. I love that Janie GENUINELY SEEMED TO LOVE HIM. Which is something programmes often just don't bother writing. I really really hope they're married by season 2. I love how she believed him that he hadn't slept with a prostitute, and she was totally willing to work through their problems, and, I don't know, they just seemed really nice together. And they take so many opportunities when they could make Janie boring and bitchy and just avoid them. Also, they remembered that Peter is really nice as well, so made him be able to see that Dawson was nice. So he didn't have to be childish or dull. I LOVE FRANKLIN AND BASH SO MUCH.

I did like VDB way more than I expected to as well, and Jared being all jealous of Peter having another friend was many kinds of lovely.

Date: 2011-09-29 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vic-amy-z.livejournal.com
Hi, my name's Vic and I'm a Frankin-and-Bash-aholic... [waves]

I watched Season 1 on the British schedule so only saw the last episode a few weeks ago. It's safe to say that I'm not handling the withdrawal well - I now own 25 films with Breckin Meyer in and YouTube is thinking of taking out a restraining order on me! I might have been a bit slow off the mark because it took me about 4 episodes to realise that I was watching a love story of epic proportions and not just a legal comedy, but after that I could not stop seeing it!

My favourite thing about this fandom is some of the kinks / tropes / whatever you want to call them, that are just accepted as fanon. Like:

Peter and Jared being comfortable sharing a bed - This will never get old. Ever.
Jared wearing Peter's clothes - I love how it accentuates the tinyness.
Being so comfortable with physical contact - Hugs, touches, whatever, they're there for each other.
They can make out without any angst - And may they never stop!
Being so protective of each other - A 'no-one insults my best friend except me' kinda deal.
Unicorns - Just... too awesome for words!

Date: 2011-09-29 09:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jekesta
::dances you so much:: The fandom tropes of this fandom make me so happy as well. Especially the clothes.

Being comfortable with physical contact isn't even really fanon, it's just canonical truth because franklin and bash is the best thing ever. I love how close they sit.

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Date: 2011-09-30 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 13-shenanigans.livejournal.com
So I have a confession...Peter/Jared is not my Franklin and Bash OTP. haha. No, I love their dynamic and I do ship them, but I actually prefer Damien/Jared. (What's really weird is the fic I have the most written for is Peter/Jared. Go figure.)

Does anyone else want Infeld to be Jared's dad like Peter suggested in episode 4? Because that really intrigues me. I want to know how he and Jared's dad know each other.

Date: 2011-09-30 07:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jekesta
I love that there are Damien shippers:):):) I don't mean that to sound patronising, I know it's really tough in such a small fandom not to be shipping the main pairing, but I love Damien so it's nice to see him getting some of the love.

I don't know if this is weird coming from me (because I am very much whole heartedly and pretty entirely a Peter/Jared shipper) but if I was going to ship Damien with either of them it would be Peter and I don't really get him with Jared as much. I know they had a bit of a pout at each other early on, and Jared is Jared, and therefore a welcome addition to any pairing, but I like Damien a whole lot with Peter. I like that he touches him sometimes when he doesn't really need to, and I like the way Peter is jealous and turned on by his ability to play guitar, and . . actually that might be it, but ships have floated on less.

(Really I ship Damien with Pindar, and I know it seems a lot like pairing the spares, but they do have a really sweet relationship going on the few times they meet in canon, and I love them together.)

(And really really I just love Damien with Hanna, because they make me feel all fuzzy inside in ways that canonical het never does. So it turns out that Damien is somehow my little black dress of F&B, I will buy him with anyone going. I think I don't ship him with Jared because I can't imagine Jared away from Peter more than I can't imagine Peter away from Jared. So you can completely ignore me, sorry.)

(As for Infeld being Jared's dad, I am way too attached to Jared's daddy issues to stir them up too much and make him have sort of awful redundant daddy issues instead.

I'm sort of assuming that when in the pilot Infeld says that he used to have a partner and they were like Franklin and Bash, that was him and Leonard. And then Leonard BETRAYED him by becoming evil and grown up, in a way that Peter must never betray Jared because it hurts me. I really like that Infeld maybe reacted to his boyfriend leaving him by trying to match him, and becoming a serious lawyer in a serious firm, and only seeing Jared has made him remember how good things were back then and how much he misses the Leonard he used to know, and OH it's just entirely a future fic I kind of want for Peter/Jared, where they go their own ways and forget about not working Mondays and Fridays and become corporate and sad and soulless and then SEE EACH OTHER AND DIE INSIDE AND CLING.)

And I will stop rambling at you, sorry. For what it's worth I think it is perfectly polite to ignore the really long comments.

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Date: 2011-09-30 09:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vic-amy-z.livejournal.com
Does anyone else want Infeld to be Jared's dad like Peter suggested in episode 4?

Oh dear god, yes! As much as I adore Jared's 'Daddy Issues' I think that having Infeld as his Father (and therefore being related to Damien) could bring a whole new set of issues, which could be awesome!

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Date: 2011-10-01 03:37 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] matchsticks-p.livejournal.com
Question: would you still be a Damien/Jared shipper if it turns out Jared really is Stanton's biological son? Since they'd then be first cousins. I'm just asking out of curiosity, not being for or against it. Incest doesn't faze me since I was a Supernatural fan, haha.

And hullo, fellow Damien shipper! I'm actually a Damien/Pindar shipper, because of the few times they go off to have their own little side adventure. And Pindar canonically couldn't stop thinking about Damien's "surprisingly large" penis. That too. XD

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Date: 2011-10-01 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blissfulmuseum.livejournal.com
OH MY GOODNESS.

I'm so sorry I haven't been around lately. My school's been doing all this spirit crap that ends up in us getting in trouble either way and, as proven tonight, multiple ambulances.

I've had this lovely post on my mind and I intend to spam the h-e-c-letter after j out of it. For funsies ;D

If y'all are still around, how's it going?

The past few days have been pretty damn strange for me. I ended up spending my Wednesday evening in a basement with 4 guys playing Scrabble. Yeah. One of them being my best friend's boyfriend (who I treat as a brother actually and continually poke fun at like one)

Then the next day 2 other guys and I used some Co2 cartridges to try and launch lego people. It didn't work at all.

And today was my school's pep rally and homecoming game and I was just reminded how much I despise large crowds...

So uhm... yeah! :D

And you guys? (Now I'mma do a F&B related post!)

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Date: 2011-10-01 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blissfulmuseum.livejournal.com
First off, I MISS MY WEEKLY DOSE OF F&B. I'm not gonna lie, the first few episodes didn't appeal to me much, but as I continued to watch and study the characters, they really grew on me. Now I love all the episodes :D

I enjoy the strong female characters that can also be sexy, but I really really really hope that Peter and Janie don't get back together. I feel like it'd ruin the whole bromance thing. ...Unless maybe they did it for a few episodes and show jealous!Jared? ...Hmm. Not too sure on that yet.

I also enjoy Damien recently too. /Not because Reed Diamond @ replied me on twitter or anything.

But, overall, Jared and Peter will forever be my main bros on the show. (DAT ASS! DOSE VESTS!)

I'm mucho excited for the premier of season 2 and can't wait to see what they have coming up!

Date: 2011-10-01 11:46 am (UTC)
jekesta: Houlihan with her hat and mask. (fb)
From: [personal profile] jekesta
It seems to be quite a common thing, only really getting hooked after a few episodes. I did the same thing, I'm not actually that sure I would have downloaded more after the pilot if I hadn't downloaded three to begin with. I liked Peter and Jared, but I wasn't blown away by them, and it seemed like it was just going to be annoying. But when I'd watched all three of them I was just weirdly . . . itchy to see more.

for a few episodes and show jealous!Jared

I love the battle you have to do in your head between how awful it would be for Peter to be with someone else, and how nice it would be to see Jared hurting. Just for a bit. It would be really nice.

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Date: 2011-10-05 07:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paper-storm88.livejournal.com
I have watched 'Suits'. I checked it out because everyone was saying it's so amazing, but honestly I like F&B a whole lot better! Suits is alright, but F&B is so, so, so much better.

Date: 2011-10-05 06:46 pm (UTC)
jekesta: Houlihan with her hat and mask. (fb)
From: [personal profile] jekesta
Suits is alright, but F&B is so, so, so much better.

I like them both, but yes. I'm with you on that. I watched them and I just knew fandom was going to fall in love with the wrong gay lawyer show. Pff. They don't know what they're missing.

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