s3 ep 02. Dead and Alive discussion

[odannygirl7.livejournal.com]

Separate posts for separate eps, even though they, like a gift from the gods, aired on the same night.


Franklin and Bash try to save an undead Vietnam veteran from having his house bulldozed.


Here be spoilers!

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[odannygirl7.livejournal.com]

They're living at a beach house. *stops sobbing over the cave*

You know what I really appreciated? People wearing sweaters and long sleeves at the beach. (esp when everyone else is in bikinis and shorts) I'm a sweater weirdo.

Stanton and the girl was sweet. Poor Stanton.

What was with the foofyness of Damien's hair?

Peter's father was in Vietnam. I love character history. I also love that Jared doesn't watch musicals/plays based on movies.

Peter wants to die first. Jared can't deal with that because Peter's better at cooking. Peter thinks he's going to have wife and not live with Jared forever. Jared disagrees. I can't breath. I want to gouge my eyes out because Peter and Jared are so perfect with their love.

"Heavy testage."

I think Charlie's super cute.

Are we going to see more of the judge that loved them? Cause that'd be awesome.

Peter twinging his back. Jared clearly needed to care about him a bit more. But it was super sweet when Pindar put the ice pack under Peter.

Carmen getting that lady to fall for her. She is that good. Damn.

Rachel telling Jared and Damien that they were both pretty. Damien trying to snark, but then being confused when asked if he knew how to swim or not. Clearly he doesn't and needs lessons. Where everyone thinks it's all fun and games until someone almost drowns and needs mouth to mouth resuscitation. Yeah.

The wall being up but Jared and Peter playing catch with themselves as though they were playing catch with each other. *cries* Rachel, can't you see how much them being separated hurts?

Peter freaking out over a possible dead person.

How can anyone not see how perfect this show is?

[gingerpig.livejournal.com]

Damien's hair! OMG they really need to do something with that. It's bizarre and distracting. And not in a good way at ALL.

On the other hand Jared's hair was perfect. As was Jared's FACE.

And I do love that they keep winning and that the second one was a huge settlement.

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I love Jared's hair so much, I'm so happy about it.

[gingerpig.livejournal.com]

And of course, now they're living at the beach, Jared's hair will be all beachy all salty and sandy and Peter won't be able to keep his fingers out of Jared's hair or his mouth off the back of Jared's neck because it tastes of sunshine.

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Ngh. Yes.

[jekesta]

People wearing sweaters and long sleeves at the beach

I THOUGHT OF YOU! How great was that? Maybe every year they'll move somewhere just that bit colder and windier until eventually all the huddling for warmth that I want from them will make sense.

And the dead person bit was beautiful, the expression on Peter's face was so perfect I might have watched it twenty million times. Him just sort of deciding that he should probably go over there now and looking perfect and Jared being like 'oh god dude, dead people are becoming a regular part of our lives you might need to start coping with them'kasjlfkjasdlj fperfect beautiful I love them.

And yes. Just yes to everything else you say as well. Playing catch with a wall between them and both getting to do the door at the same time and having all the same thoughts anyway.

And the dying before each other! !!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't even know how to do with that because OH GOD PETER SO CRUEL, AND SUCH A LIE, what wife? No. Less of that. Although Jared having specifically talked about Peter and then saying he was talking about his wife is . . . eventually Peter just needs to realise he is Jared's wife and stop trying not to be. And then Carmen comes along and points out Charlie and Jared's all 'yeah you should go talk to her that's FINE'. (but also Jared should accept that Peter has to die first because expecting Peter to cope with Jared's deadness is unthinkable. Although I think about it a lot.)

And I love how Jared wants to die first so Peter will feed him. I don't think they even do the Peter and food thing on purpose, but his feeding people is my favourite thing in the world and I love them for every bit of canon they throw my way.

At the end when Peter goes to talk to Charlie and is like 'okay, you stay here, don't follow me' to Jared, did that even come out of anything? Or was that just super weird. Like he was putting down a security blanket and going 'no you stay here and I will see if I'm okay without you for ten minutes?' Is it just that Peter knows that Jared is really bad at letting him have relationships? I quite like Charlie but why Peter thinks he's allowed a relationship when he's just sabotaged one of Jared's is beyond me.

I'm not sure any of this made sense. Try not to judge, I'm very tired.

[odannygirl7.livejournal.com]

Random beach sweaters and a thing of beauty.

Maybe every year they'll move somewhere just that bit colder and windier until eventually all the huddling for warmth that I want from them will make sense.

Yes. That needs to be the plan. Lawyering in Alaska. In a cabin. In the woods. With just a small fire. And sweaters.

Or we could just have a beach storm episode where the weather is terrible and chilly and Peter and Jared both get soaked battening down the hatches and there's no power so they have to warm up by sharing body heat. Or whatever.

Him just sort of deciding that he should probably go over there now and looking perfect and Jared being like 'oh god dude, dead people are becoming a regular part of our lives you might need to start coping with them'kasjlfkjasdlj fperfect beautiful I love them.

His face was so amazing. It's so close to having a zombie apocalypse episode. Where Peter is 100% done with finding dead bodies and Jared is 100% done with having to touch dead bodies because Peter won't.

Peter would never be able to deal with finding Jared's body. Oh man. The internal struggle of dead body vs Jared is too much. Can that happen on the show maybe? Where something happens and Peter comes in and thinks Jared's dead and has to force himself over to Jared's body while freaking out about a dead body and then freaking out about Jared and, like, holding his body and then later when everything is actually fine Jared's like 'so you can touch my dead body? That's actually really sweet, man.' and then maybe he randomly pretends to be dead because he hopes Peter will hold him again.

(sometimes I think we have weird wants for this show... but then I think, no these are perfectly reasonable)

I think what I like best about the Peter and food thing is that they brought back up that he was a chubby kid (or that he fought childhood obesity) and I want to think his food stuff is a result of that, like maybe he had some food issues in jr high or something, before becoming a football star (or maybe while? because he was also sad about not being at school with Jared even though they maybe never went to school together at all?) but he got past it by becoming a good cook (better than Colleen, who seems like she might have been kinda flaky about what was going on with dinner) and he'd have Jared over for dinners that he'd make when Jared's dad was too busy with court to make sure Jared ate too.

The end was so weird. And Jared's like 'if I need held I'm not asking you.' and it was like they were actually reassuring each other that they'd be there when the other got back or something.

Peter just keeps being delusional about how he and Jared are so married. Maybe Charlie will understand. And not make anything terrible happen, like encouraging Peter to move out or spend less time with Jared or something because I don't want to not like her. Or her adorable Australian accent.

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I would totally buy them getting into loads of trouble and Stanton sending them off to alaska to open a new branch of the firm up there. That would be a FABULOUS season 4.

And I liked that they mentioned Peter being fat when he was younger again, I don't think I'd ever really thought of that in connection with him giving people food, but yeah, that could totally work. And him having to cook because Colleen was always too busy meditating or only fed him her new fad superfood or whatever absolutely works too and I love EVERYTHING about Peter Bash and food.

Maybe since their total gay love broke up Jared and Emily they've made rules, like 'we won't follow each other around at parties too much' 'we'll let each other talk to girls' 'if you're with a girl and I need help I will not call you first' and such, maybe they were just smiling and confirming that they remembered the rules. I bet they stick to them for like a week.

maybe he randomly pretends to be dead because he hopes Peter will hold him again

This is simultaneously the most beautiful, hilarious, and heartbreaking thing in the world and I want it to be TRUE, I LOVE YOU.

[odannygirl7.livejournal.com]

Think of all the sweaters and hats and mittens they could wear in Alaska. Perfect S4.

You know as soon as they do need help and one of them is with a girl that rule goes right out of the window. Even for something like help opening up another beer.

:D

[gingerpig.livejournal.com]

I LOVE the beach house and Jared lounging on the deck and Jared's bare feet. And the fact that they all stayed together.

AND THEY TALKED ABOUT DYING AGAIN. And Peter said he was talking about his wife and Jared said so was he and they were really talking about each other. I had a bit of a flaily moment there.

Jared's FACE was off the chart in this one and I hate that wall, but the shot with the balls Steve McQueen in the cooler style was rather awesome so I'll forgive the that for now.

And I actually rather like Rachel King. I was afraid she was going to be like Brett from last season, but I do think she's going to be an interesting addition. Even though she's never going to be Hanna.

Also Peter's dead body thing again!

I'm loving that they're actually doing some continuity. Maybe they took notice of all the times we said it didn't make sense before.

They should give us two episodes every week, but then that would make the season even shorter. Oh well, they'll just have to give us 22 episodes. It's only fair...

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Oh god all the bare feet!!!!!! YES.

The two episodes was ridiculously spoiling, but also really sad that it's only going to last for nine weeks now and will make hiatus (please be a hiatus and not an ending) that much longer. Still, at least it looks like being ten amazing beautiful beachfilled episodes, so it's fine. Maybe.

[gingerpig.livejournal.com]

And his feet in socks when he was on the couch in the stupidly divided office.

Shorter seasons always means less filler, which is always a good thing. Plus we'll always have Lego Peter and Jared to take care of the hiatus.

It'll all be fine and wonderful and Peter will make out with Rob Lowe the other side next door and Jared will be suitably jealous and they'll have awesome make up sex on that lovely deck overlooking the beach.

[odannygirl7.livejournal.com]

I loved that there was never any question about if Carmen and Pindar would continue to live with them. Theyre such a family. *loves*

I do hope they're listening to us. That would be lovely. We have such good ideas here.

[gingerpig.livejournal.com]

*hearts* I don't think I can ever imagine a time when they're all not together. Jared and Peter are always going to get a place big enough for all of them.

It would be lovely. I think my head might actually explode if they did even half of the stuff we want them to. Although saying that, most of the time they're doing a damn fine job of getting a little bit close to it *g*

[odannygirl7.livejournal.com]

I think even if they eventually decided to pretend to be grownups with wives and things they'd still have extra rooms for Pindar and Carmen.

They get every close! It's rather pleasing.

[mina93.livejournal.com]

I liked this episode a lot more than 301 because it got more of the 'funny aspect' that the first one lacked! "Can you even swim?"

Also, Jared wanting to die before Peter? I wanted to cry.

I LIKE CHARLIE, yeeei! I was so afraid i wasn't gonna like her since she's gonna be there all season, but she's sassy, AUSTRALIAN (love the accent) and I love her name.

I love how we get to know more about Peter's family, they sound just awesome. (We already know Colleen is awesome and that Jared loves her) and Peter's family is kinda like Jared's family too since his own sucks.. (I hope we get to know more about Jared's mom though)

I also love how Peter and Jared are so chill with Pindar even after he burned their house down, and just jokes about it, true bros right there!

Peter high on pain meds? ALMOST as funny as drunk!Jared!

The beach house is so pretty (what we've seen so far, at least) i want one!

I hate the wall between their offices, it doesn't make any sense when they work all their cases together and it's just inconvenient..

JARED CAN MARRY PEOPLE!!

I WILL NEVER GET OVER PETER'S DEAD BODIES THING!

I just have to add, Carmen is awesome. AND DAMIEN.

AND HOLY FUCK THE PROMO!!

[jekesta]

I LOVE ALL YOUR CAPITALS AND I AGREE WITH THEM STRONGLY!

I'm not in love with the lighting in the beach house, but so long as they're mostly outside and barefoot and happy I don't care that much.

And I was thinking that about the wall, it only makes sense if she wants them to work separate cases and she doesn't seem to be doing that. Still, maybe that'll come? And in the meantime I don't mind it so much if all it does is make them want to be near each other more.

Jared can marry people! You just know that eventually Peter's going to decide to get married on a whim and expect Jared to play along and Jared's going to be sadder than he's ever been in his life and not know how to say no.

[odannygirl7.livejournal.com]

I don't think I can deal with Peter asking Jared to marry him off to someone else and Jared having to put on a brave face all while dying on the inside... while Peter doesn't even notice... while his work suffers (esp if they're working separate cases)... while he quietly starts to look for another place to live... which would all probably be happening if this show was a drama.

And I certainly could't deal with it if Peter said something like 'Jared would you marry me.' and, like, pauses before he says the girl's name because Jared would totally be like 'like make it legal?, were practically married already, Peter, but okay.' because that would be horrible.

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I keep wanting to believe that Peter isn't such an awful boyfriend that he'd actually ask Jared to marry him off to a woman, but I sort of think he really would. He's dreadful.

Jared would totally be like 'like make it legal?,

UGH. And then pretend obviously it was a joke, it was a clear absolute total joke and in no way at all a dream come true. UGH. Peter would realise though, wouldn't he? I think he'd realise and explain to the woman and go and find Jared sitting somewhere getting drunk on his own on the beach and just be like 'I didn't think I had a chance with you! Obviously I wouldn't marry someone else if I could have you!' and then it would all be okay.

[misslola89.livejournal.com]

If we don't get heartfelt, drunk talks on the pier/boardwalk this season I will be very disappointed. Bonus points if it involves one of them apologising for being a bad boyfriend.

I'd really like a conversation between Jared and Charlie at some point too, where Jared acts like the kid who's parent has a new partner and really doesn't want to like Charlie but then she totally just gets him and his love for Peter and basically turns out to be completely deserving of Peter's love and everything is awesome and nothing hurts.

[odannygirl7.livejournal.com]

I love heartfelt drunk talks. We should totally get those. (it could replace the Diner... not that I want the Diner replaced, but they haven't gone there yet (there's still time though), but if they're not going to go to the Diner then they need to instead of heartfelt drunk beach talks)

Oh man, I'd die for a convo like that. Where Charlie assures him that she's not going to take Peter away from him, and then invites him on a group date or something, or helps him pick up chicks... because I really want her to be amazing.

[odannygirl7.livejournal.com]

Sometimes Peter forgets that he needs to be a good boyfriend. He gets caught up in heterosexual expectations. It's terrible.

And Jared would try to laugh it off, like 'no man, of course I was kidding... like we would get married... to each other... instead of to women...' but his voice gets all wobbly and yeah. And then Peter would remember to be a good boyfriend and it'd be lovely.

[misslola89.livejournal.com]

Ok, I love Rachel but why does she want to keep Peter & Jared apart? This whole wall is incredibly cruel even if we do get cute one-sided games of catch.

I love finding out more about character histories even though I'd always assumed that Peter never knew his dad so I'm trying to factor this new information into my headcanon. Excited for more Jane Seymour next week!

Peter on pain meds is brilliant. Though Jared wasn't being a very caring boyfriend. But he does want to die first, because Peter is the better shopper and the better cook and and Jared needs him to reach things on the top shelf on the cupboard and they're totally gonna grow old together even if Peter won't admit it.

Also, Rob Benedict :D

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I'd always assumed that Peter never knew his dad

The trouble with how they dripfeed us information about their pasts is that by now they're always going to be ruining someone's head canon now.

I loved Peter on painmeds so much, I love that Jared just told him he'd been brilliant in court and let him sit down again:)

they're totally gonna grow old together even if Peter won't admit it

Yes. Yes. They so totally are. I wish they'd admit it, but failing that just actually doing it will suffice.

[fobmarwi.livejournal.com]

AND THIS IS THE EPISODE WHERE JARED FINDS OUT PETER CAME OUT WITH THEIR SLOGAN BECAUSE OF STORY HIS FATHER TOLD HIM! Why don't you kill me already, show???

[odannygirl7.livejournal.com]

I didn't even put that together. *dies a thousand times over how perfect this show is*

[jekesta]

Aaaaaaaaaaaa! YES. I LOVED THIS I LOVED IT SO MUCH AND JARED'S FACE! STUNNING.

[rogoblue.livejournal.com]

Wow--this was a show that forgot the first 15 minutes to service the last 15 in the same episode for the first 2 seasons and now we're flowing continuity from show to show. YES!!!! Loving me some continuity. Finally!

I believe Damien coughed due to dry conditions and am wondering about the return of the poofy hair from Season 1, episode 2.

Too many bikinis. Proving I'm a heterosexual female.

This ep reminded me about the movie Brazil. Tuttle becomes Buttle (or the reverse) and all manner of stuff ensues.

Ballerina, exercise bike--wonder if they introduce kickboxing next!