franklin_bash | season 2 ep 10 650 to SLC discussion

Pretty good episode all around I think. I love that we finally got some jealous Peter, because it's not fair for it to always be Jared. His "I'm happy for you, seriously" could not have sounded less believable. I'm completely behind him though since even though Jared needs some love, I don't really like Emily(?) and the idea of her moving in is ridiculous.

Peter getting temporarily suspended was kind of random, especially coming a week after their IA investigation. Also, DID NOT LIKE the reason Stanton hired them. It was always going to be something bad but that was just cruel and if they'd left I would have totally supported their decision. Although I like that even after they turned it around to help the firm, they were still a little pissed at Stanton.

I enjoyed the subplot with Chris Klein. Peter on the stand was interesting, though I would have liked to have seen Jared cross-examine him. AND I totally want a flashback to when they were in high school and Jared would go to all of Peter's football games and sit on the bleachers cheering him on and wear Peter's letterman jacket.

I loved Hanna owning up to what she'd done and apologising to the guys and even though he never apologised, I liked Damien's toast at the end too. One big happy family again (even if there was no group hug)

Other good points were Jared impersonating his father and getting them jet skis, Peter & Jared ON A PLANE (mile high club, anyone?) and Jared sliding his phone (Peter's phone? I'm not too sure) along the bar to Peter. Their synchronicity is awesome :)

Can we have season 3 now please?

Their sympatico is epic. :D Its one of the things i absolutely love about these two.

I was giggling like crazy with their plane antics, and i wonder if they went and got all riled up during the little riot they caused before they got the plane to land. *gigglensorts* I wouldn't put it past them.

I bet they were totally proud of how they'd worked out how to fuck in airplane loos during their case and were offering free demonstrations. Or auctioning them for charity.

His "I'm happy for you, seriously" could not have sounded less believable

I LOVE HOW ANNOYED HE WAS BY JARED LOVING SOMEONE ELSE and having FEELINGS and things and still thinking about her even though she'd left the room and Peter was RIGHT THERE.

I would have liked to have seen Jared cross-examine him

SERIOUSLY THOUGH. I can't believe the lack of that. Just having him under oath and asking him about ALL the little things they've fought over, like things he's lied about breaking or stealing or doing. Or even just making him admit he thinks Jared's a better lawyer than he is. Making him admit things under oath would be AMAZING. But probably actually they had a lie detector last week so maybe Jared had that all out of his system. Still, it should have been better. I'd have liked Peter to be being properly interrogated, and sort of making eyebrows as Jared to object and Jared not really knowing what he's objecting for, but doing it anyway because of love. I want a whole episode of Jared being Peter's beautiful lawyer. Especially if Peter gets kept in jail for the duration so Jared is worried about him and can't talk to him and has to tell him things are going well and probably isn't allowed to hug him.

wear Peter's letterman jacket

OH GOD I HOPE JARED STILL HAS IT JUST AT THE BACK OF HIS CUPBOARD.

OH GOD I HOPE JARED STILL HAS IT JUST AT THE BACK OF HIS CUPBOARD

Oh you know he does. And maybe Peter thinks he lost it but one day he goes to borrow something from Jared and finds it and Jared is all "I don't know how that got there..." even though he still secretly takes it out and wears it after they've had a fight or Peter's out of town.

Jared is all "I don't know how that got there..."

Yessssss, quickly stuffing it back INTO the cupboard before Peter thinks about taking it away from him.

I'm mostly going with ajdkgha`dgad'jfgh'`kaghj

There may well be something more coherent after second watch through but -

I actually made seal noises at Peter being Jared's intern - I need someone to sexual harass and get me coffee

and sex toys for Valentines \o/

Leonard Franklin really is an asshole and Jared has a sister??

And I loved that Pindar called Emily 'Yoko'...

Edited 2012-08-15 08:01 (UTC)

sex toys for Valentines \o/

LSIDHfiuwhoeifsjpdiofksdf OH GOD YES. That's purely amazing. Remote control ones. BLESS THEM AND THEIR EVERY SLIGHT KINK.

loved that Pindar called Emily 'Yoko'...

Yes! And that Carmen stopped him, but then when Jared talked about moving in even she went 'NO WHAT?????'

Bless them indeed - we should have a hiatus of exploring ALL OF THE KINKS

Is Jared's girlfriend called Emily? I think she is, I think that's what they call her. (The school teacher he slept with last year was called Emily, I think that's what keeps making me think this one isn't. I liked the school teacher more.) But I like that this new Emily is making Peter furious and sad, that was entirely what I wanted. I loved how part of him probably was really trying to be happy for Jared that he has someone he really likes even though most of him was just WILLING HER back to new york, and I love how he's allowed to flirt with WHOLE JURIES but every time Jared flirts with anyone Peter is judgey because it's unprofessional. And now I would totally like next season to start with Jared being broken hearted that she's left him and Peter being relieved while consoling. I love that Pindar and Carmen don't like her.

I LITERALLY CANNOT BELIEVE they didn't make Jared cross examine Peter. They went to ALL THAT EFFORT to get one of them on the stand. LSdhfoiwefs. They didn't have nearly enough fun with that. I hope next year one of them gets sued for something and the other one defends them. I hope next year happens.

I can't believe they quietly gave Jared a sister. KSHDOIF. There are so many different things I want from Peter being near Jared's sister, and I can't decide which one most.

Basically this episode did none of the Infeld/Leonard stuff that I wanted and NEEDED so I'm kind of cross with it. Infeld's reason for hiring them was stupid and not true, he clearly loves them, and loves Leonard and wanted Leonard in his life more, or just someone to remind him of him, and to upset Leonard by supporting his son while also looking after him, and lskdfhiwlsdihfsdf, I know it's Franklin and Bash and making sense isn't its primary focus, but this season has been weird and I'm a little bit sad. (I'm also pre-menstrual, everything makes me sad today.)

I'm cross with MPG because he said it ended on a bit of a cliff hanger which might have lead them in new directions next year, but did he mean Emily moving in? Or did he think they were going to leave it on a cliff hanger of trying to decide whether or not to stay with Infeld? Because that's the cliff hanger I wanted, I wanted them in the diner, moodily eating burgers and contemplating their future together. Endlessly they finish seasons with a party at the cave instead of meaningful glances at the diner.

I enjoyed the episode massively, I think that might not be coming across. It was lovely. Somebody grazed Jared's penis with his fingers. Also he can't kill fish. I'm just so cross that we don't get any more until next year (when presumably they will make us more why didn't they say they would????) And I'm angry that they're not pandering to me MORE. And I feel a lot like in the first season Peter and Jared were so delighted by each other, because I think MPG and BM were a bit each others new favourite thing. And now they know each other too well and I know they're still beautiful together, but there's been no hugging, and less making each other laugh despite themselves, and something. I *love* Jared looking after Peter reassuringly and we've had loads of that and it makes me so happy inside, but also I like it when Jared looks like a tiny boy and Peter just wants to LOVE HIM and we haven't had that as much. I think they should ban MPG and BM from seeing each other now, and then they'd be really happy to be back with each other next year. Also I think they should have a dog and no Emily and BM should write all the episodes, but he's not allowed to put Seth Green in all of them, and some of them should be road trips and OCCASIONALLY he should be shot.

And I hate Jared's new wardrobe, although some of his new wardrobe is really nice, but he used to wear turtles and he had that lovely elephant t-shirt and now he's all wrong, and he wasn't naked, not even for a little while.

I love that Jared claimed Peter as an intern, happy happy happy happy. So much sexual harrassment for him <33333333

I think they should ban MPG and BM from seeing each other now, and then they'd be really happy to be back with each other next year. Also I think they should have a dog and no Emily and BM should write all the episodes, but he's not allowed to put Seth Green in all of them, and some of them should be road trips and OCCASIONALLY he should be shot.

I approve of all this. But seriously, they need to stop adding random tidbits such as Jared now having a sister who's never been mentioned before and Jared is clearly an only child.

And I hate Jared's new wardrobe

I hate Peter's more. Too many weird long-sleeve tops and cardigans.

Totally forgot to mention in my original post that Peter slapped Jared's ass which made me very happy and almost made up for the suggestion that Emily move in.

Jared is clearly an only child

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I think it's a bit late to give either of them siblings now but if they have to have siblings then Peter can have them but not Jared. And they have to be older than Peter.

I hate Peter's casual wardrobe, what the hell was that awful grey thing??? But I'm mostly liking his suits. He's easily suited to a suit.

I'm really sad that he's refusing to drink out of bottles. Has he *always*? I didn't notice it in the first season, and I think it's a weird habit to give him and I don't think Jared would put up with it, I think he would raise eyebrows at it.

Probably when Jared has a girlfriend and Peter has to constantly watch SOMEONE ELSE touching him it is even more difficult than ever to keep his hands off him. Probably there is a lot of ass-slapping and pretend fighting and random excuses for hugging and touching. Probably it's quite beautiful.

Just had a quick flck through S1 and he literally drinks out of bottle once. And it's not even at a party (1x06 when they're advisng Debbie on text subtext. I miss Debbie) But I'd never noticed before and now I think about it, it is pretty weird.t's not really in-keeping with the keg party atmosphere they have going on.

Despite my dislike of The Emily Situation, I'm glad the season ended on a shot of Peter & Jared together, unlike last season, which SHOULD have ended with them sat out by the hot tub. Not dancing with wrestlers and their daughters.

Probably it's quite beautiful

Isn't it always? *sigh*

he literally drinks out of bottle once

That's some quick finding! But really weird, because in my head they clink bottles together (you know, like a toast) *all* the time. But they don't. But I really think they would. Most of the time Peter's drinking white russians, and not beer, so that's not as bad. But when he's drinking beer it's odd.

I'm glad the season ended on a shot of Peter & Jared together

Yes! Yes, that's very true. They're improving. Maybe next year they'll be hugging, or gazing into each others eyes at the diner. And then the year after that they might be stranded alone on a desert island, sitting on the beach smiling a bit because they've got each other and another boat'll probably come along in six months or so.

You know what would awesome about Jared's sister? She being daddy's little girl! That would totally explain why Jared never talks about her and it would be a double crossing if Peter had something with her...

Why there wasn't a video chat like last year? I wanted to see them not-in-character but still in love and being horrible at Spanish and ask MPG why he married someone that isn't BM

I'm wondering if they meant her to be the other Franklin in Franklin and Franklin, but I don't think they should just be allowed to INVENT sisters when he's never made any remote suggestion towards having one, and none of his argument with his dad has ever been about how he isn't as good as her or is just as bad as her or whatever. Maybe Peter just invented her. (Even in this episode when he was pretending to be Leonard he said 'the one time I didn't use a condom', I think. So hm.)

and he wasn't naked, not even for a little while.

I am most annoyed about that.

Also I think they should have a dog and no Emily and BM should write all the episodes, but he's not allowed to put Seth Green in all of them, and some of them should be road trips and OCCASIONALLY he should be shot.

THIS WOULD BE PERFECT - I approve

I am most annoyed about that.

There should be letter writing campaigns. It's no way to treat your loving audience.

I sort of invented this scenario in my head that 'Jared's sister' might have been during some stunt they pulled during a party where Jared was dressed as a woman, as they've mentioned cross dressing before/have cross dressed at parties, and also the dude looked super uncomfortable at the mention of 'her', if she even exists.

SLKDhfoiwejfosjdkfhoisjgksdf! OH. So much instant love. Yes. That would be infinitely beautifully brilliantly better than him having an actual sister. LOVE. He did really like his ~~kilt~~ skirt, and lipstick, and oh god at college - at real in my head college, not that weird wig college they went to in flashback land - he would be too too too pretty like that, and Peter smiling at him and dragging him away from people when he was drunk and was going to start letting them do things they oughtn't to.

Exactly, especially since judging by Pindar's story they made habit of crashing parties, I can imagine some costume party where the guy mistakes Jared for an actual woman, Jared runs with it because whatever, free drinks, something, then Peter shows up confused that his buddy is trying to get in Jared's pants, so he and Jared just invent this sister out of no where as the reason he exclaims "Jared?" in confusion after which he and Jared had an eyebrow conversation about blackmail for beer, and it doesn't matter because the guy's never met Jared, he's Peter's friend and only knows Jared as some guy so awesome and cool that he's probably made up.

Anywho, I'm rambling, apologies, but he just seemed really uncomfortable in general with Jared's entire existence and I like to make up stories that explain shit.

No, no apologising, that's awesome. Making up ways that Franklin and Bash might be EVEN BETTER THAN IT ALREADY IS is pretty much my favourite thing.

an eyebrow conversation

I LOVE THEIR FACES.

It is Emily. And I don't understand her. (nothing against Shiri Appleby, who's perfectly fine) I mean... how did they decide to make a girlfriend out of the boringist person ever. She almost got interesting when Jared asked her to tell them about things and maybe during that conference call... but it didn't really stick. I totally like how not cool everyone is with her, but I'd also like to be assured that she wasn't going to be a permanent thing because there's literally no reason to have a long lasting girlfriend thing in this show. (ugh. feels about this. I have them.)

I didn't even think about Jared cross examining Peter, but omg how did they not? I'm so sad. It would have been rollicking fun! (the whole thing of Peter not being allowed to practice law because of paperwork or whatever was just random and weird)

It was also weird (maybe?) about how suddenly it was Hanna throwing out her report that triggered the review instead of the former client causing problems. Like the writers just remembered that the whole thing should have been tied together even though they didn't bother with it during the whole season. Like, there was such possibilities with that and they didn't really bother.

Also they didn't really bother with the Infeld/Franklin stuff. There should have been something else... clearly last year Stanton loved Peter and Jared and not just as poison pills. (though him saying that did make Jared have some lovely faces)

And I'm also kinda disappointed that they didn't follow through with becoming badass lawyers. Jared becoming what he didn't want to be. Loosing their roots. I kinda wanted evil ness (even just a bit) by the end of the season.

Jared having a girlfriend is the wrong kind of cliffhanger. It's like not even one. Blergh at MPG for saying things.

I liked to ep too... even though all I do is complain.

The plane ride was wonderful. It was like seeing into a Franklin family car trip with Leonard yelling at Jared for doing basically everything.

Jared impersonating his father was also wonderful. (even though it made me a little sad because every bad thing was probably things he's heard his father say)

And I'm angry that they're not pandering to me MORE. And I feel a lot like in the first season Peter and Jared were so delighted by each other, because I think MPG and BM were a bit each others new favourite thing. And now they know each other too well and I know they're still beautiful together, but there's been no hugging, and less making each other laugh despite themselves, and something.

Yes. It's almost like something's lacking. And I always kind of feel like during the first season of a show everyone is in this bubble of no watcher reactions, but then they do get watcher reactions and then they get gun shy about doing things because they're worried about what people will like. Or something. *shrug*

And I hate Jared's new wardrobe, although some of his new wardrobe is really nice, but he used to wear turtles and he had that lovely elephant t-shirt and now he's all wrong, and he wasn't naked, not even for a little while.

Yes. He was a bit better at being casual last season.

I love that Jared claimed Peter as an intern, happy happy happy happy. So much sexual harrassment for him <33333333

You know they role played the hell out of that.

Sometimes I wish they would take a single story line and run with it through an entire episode. This all could've been about the takeover and we could've delved into each aspect of that situation into more depth. The politician story line was kind of ho hum, which might be why I feel so strongly about this.

This season lacked the Hanna/Damien component of last season and I couldn't quite figure out why. But at least we're clear that Hanna's had a change of heart and Damien's not out for blood (he'd just prefer it if Peter and Jared were invisible and silent, I imagine).

Stanton remains his scary schizophrenic self and not just with Damien anymore. I'm not sure I'd have been as quick to forgive him as Peter and Jared were (and he never promised to be straight with them from now on either).

"Not if I was on fire!" made everything all right for me, but I'm strange that way.

Been a fun year, you all, but 10 episodes is NOT enough!

10 episodes is NOT enough!

THiiiiiiiiiiiis.

lacked the Hanna/Damien component of last season

I suppose in some ways they did have to either get them together or let them just be over it, because ust is boring if everyone involved is heterosexual, and keeping it going might so easily have turned into Hanna being all caught up on Damien who was more interested in regulations than her? I don't know if I'm explaining that right. I'm really sad they didn't choose to get them together, even if they did it quite nicely, in keeping them friends.

(I suppose their relationship was never meant to be quite as much of a thing last year as a lot of people saw there. I think because they moved Bro Bono from Episode 2 to 4, it dragged a lot of storylines from the pilot with it, so they seemed longer than they were? Hanna was hardly even in episodes 8 and 9, was she? And then her and Damien were LOVELY in episode 10, but were probably supposed to be just friends by that point.)

Sorry, I'm over thinking them because I loved them. And then as well as not being together this year, they made NO SENSE from the very first episode with the whole sudden trying to get rid of F&B thing, so yeah. It was a shame. But they had nice bits individually.

You're right, I think. They either had to get them together or let it be over. I was just thinking how ironic it would've been to be collecting dirt on Franklin and Bash while conducting a torrid affair in secret. Hey, wait a minute! Who says they didn't.:)

They did kind of jump from she wants to get back together and I don't date people from work to open animosity in Ep 3 on Hanna's part (I've been here longer and have more billable hours, etc. than Damien). Then they made peace and he told her that having a child could never make her ordinary and that seemed like a stepping stone to something. Then Hanna, as you said, disappeared for two episodes and they worked well together/played off each other interestingly in ep 10. Then this year, they didn't share all that much screen time. I'm not sure they tried any cases together in season 2.

It struck me as odd, is all. I like the characters together and the actors have excellent chemistry. Just feels like a missed opportunity to me (as lovers or friends).

Ohh,god, Jared saying he's gonna sexually harass Peter was the best thing I've ever heard, followed by Jared's impression of Leonard!

What's-her-name is moving in? WHAT?? WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS TO PETER???

What's-her-name is moving in? WHAT?? WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS TO PETER???

I would be HAPPY with this, if it wasn't for some article or interview somewhere saying they were considering bringing her back next year. She was easily one of the least interesting romantic interests ever.

But on the other hand it does mean now that I can write myself six million over the top angsty fics about Peter's pain and anguish and petty jealousy :):):):):):):) So I'm a little bit yay.

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